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Frank_Jewett Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: ECW on Sci-Fi |
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ECW drew a 1.9 rating on August 29th, well below the 2.3 +/- 0.1 rating the show had drawn during most of its run. The good news is that Sci-Fi announced plans to extend ECW's run through the end of 2007. The bad news? Well, maybe there isn't any bad news, but let's consider possible reasons for the ratings drop.
1) Insignificant one time drop
A 0.4 one week drop for a show that has shown very consistent viewership is too significant to dismiss as a freak occurance.
2) Non-recurring calendar conflict - the dreaded "St. Valentine's Day Massacre" effect
Tuesday doesn't appear to be a significant date. Perhaps Wednesday was the first day of school in some districts (elementary school started here on the 22nd), but if ECW lost viewers to school night curfews then they will likely lose many of them next week as well.
3) Seasonal decline in interest - the "Summertime Blues" effect
WWE ratings have typically declined during the summer for a variety of reasons. Summer schedules allow kids to stay out late rather than staying in and watching TV, families go on vacation, and interest tends to rise during the buildup to Wrestlemania and wane as the fallout from Wrestlemania wraps up. ECW ratings have been surprisingly constant until this week, so if the "Summertime Blues" were dampening ratings, they were probably doing so throughout the whole ECW on Sci-Fi run. ECW also doesn't have to worry about losing viewers to Monday Night Football, so they really shouldn't suffer the same seasonal dropoff we saw with Monday Night RAW over several years.
4) Bad Booking
The main event was Sabu vs Paul Heyman, so it's entirely possible that fans changed the channel rather than standing up and turning their backs to their televisions in protest. Of course it's also possible that hotshot booking drove ratings in previous episodes and Sabu vs Heyman was considered a "normal" main event by comparison. Next week Big Show is supposed to wrestle Triple H and Shawn Michaels in a handicap match, so we won't have to wait long to test out the theory that ECW on Sci-Fi needs a "hotshot" main event to draw ratings in the 2.3 range. If ratings stay within 0.1 of this week's 1.9, it will suggest a longer term ratings shift.
5) Indifference - the "Thrill is Gone" effect
It's possible that some of ECW's 2.3 average rating was due to the newness of the show. ECW hasn't lost ratings as quickly as the XFL, but every show eventually runs into the challenge of drawing viewers once the freshness and excitement have worn off. Ratings for "The Ultimate Fighter" dropped from 1.6 in season 1 to 1.4 in season 2. TUF drew a 1.7 rating in season 3, so it is certainly possible to build ratings after the novelty has worn off.
We'll see what happens with the hotshot main event next Tuesday.
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sideswipe70
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Another possibility is that with Raw not airing at its regular time on USA, they lost some of the viewers who are drawn by the cross-promotion on Raw. I don't know if I think that's a possibility, but I'm willing to play a wait and see game until next week's ratings come in.
Or, nobody cares about a main event of Sabu vs. Paul Heyman. That strikes me as most likely.
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kjh
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| The ECW rating only rebounded slightly to a 2.1, still below the show's average, despite supposedly having the biggest match ever on ECW television. I'm sure DX won't get any of the blame for this disappointing rating, but it probably indicates that their act has gotten stale, just like the new ECW has. |
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Frank_Jewett Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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I believe the RVD/Sabu tag match drew a 1.8 during the first quarter hour. Test and Knox made RVD look small and made Sabu look tiny. I suspect WWE creative had that visual in mind all along.
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Frank_Jewett Site Admin
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eron
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| Frank_Jewett wrote: | I believe the RVD/Sabu tag match drew a 1.8 during the first quarter hour. Test and Knox made RVD look small and made Sabu look tiny. I suspect WWE creative had that visual in mind all along.
Frank |
Vince supposedly really likes Sabu, so I think the purpose was more putting the two pushed midcard heels against the two most popular ECW stars.
Test and Knox are to what Carlito and Masters used to be on Raw and what Finlay and Regal are now on SD!. |
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Frank_Jewett Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Bad news on the doorstep. Dave Meltzer reported that ECW drew a 1.6 rating this week.
| Dave Meltzer wrote: | | 1.6 The Dog: The Family Speaks show on A&E doing a 3.3, didn't help matters any. |
The WWE, which once boasted about bringing down legendary prime time sports flagship "Monday Night Football", is now being brought down by "Dog: The Bounty Hunter?"
Oh, but of course this isn't WWE, it's ECW, the little bingo hall brand that used to be televised between rodeo and roller derby.
Frank
"I'm a brand builder!"
- Vince McMahon
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WWE(R) Launches ECW(R) As Third Brand
STAMFORD, Conn., May 25, 2006 - World Wrestling Entertainment,
Inc., today announced the official launch of ECW (Extreme Championship
Wrestling(R)) as a brand extension to its RAW(R)and
SmackDown(R)franchises.
After acquiring the ECW assets in 2003, WWE spent the past few
years re-introducing ECW to the global WWE audience and increasing the
interest in its unique brand of sports entertainment. To date, WWE has
successfully released three ECW DVD's, all of which have become best
sellers, and produced a very profitable ECW pay-per-view event in June
2005, with another ECW pay-per-view scheduled for this June 11, 2006.
With consumer interest at an all-time high, WWE is introducing ECW as
a complementary brand to RAW and SmackDown.
"After keeping the ECW concept alive and creating an enormous
cult-like following for all things ECW from DVD's to PPV's to books,
we feel that now the time is right to officially launch ECW as its own
stand-alone franchise," said Vince McMahon, WWE Chairman. "RAW,
SmackDown and ECW now represent a portfolio of WWE brands for fans of
all ages and interests to enjoy."
Similar to WWE's RAW and SmackDown brands, WWE will produce,
market and promote a full line of ECW products from television
programs to pay-per-views to live events to licensed consumer goods.
In a related announcement, The SCI FI Channel today announced it
would start airing one-hour episodes of a new ECW live television
program, debuting June 13 at 10 p.m. ET. |
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Kevin Tyler
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The WWE, which once boasted about bringing down legendary prime time sports flagship "Monday Night Football", is now being brought down by "Dog: The Bounty Hunter?" |
Dog: The Bounty Hunter has exciting action and some interesting characters. WWE does not. Others may disagree and I realise it's just more "reality" trash TV, but I'm much more likely to spend an evening watching Dog than any wrestling on TV these days. It's my guilty pleasure show. :) |
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Frank_Jewett Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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I like "Dog", but it's still a comedown to go from (allegedly) threatening a network icon of thirty years to being threatened by an indy show in its third year.
Beth's fashion choices have that certain Rikishi "car wreck" fascination which the director seems to understand because he frequently pans up from her feet.
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jdw Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Frank_Jewett wrote: | | I like "Dog", but it's still a comedown to go from (allegedly) threatening a network icon of thirty years to being threatened by an indy show in its third year. |
The ultimate irony is that Monday Night Football moved from Disney's primary network ABC to Disney's cable channel ESPN. Price tag? $1.1 billion a year. That's twice what ABC was paying for MNF. More than the $650M that NBC is paying for Sunday Nights (same as ESPN use to pay), and NBC gets a pair of Super Bowls. Fox is coughing up $710M+ a year and gets Super Bowls, while CBS pays $620M+ and also gets Super Bowls.
The network icon got relegated to the NFL's #4 contract in terms of "push" (clearly behind the three contracts with major networks that include Super Bowls i.e. the "PPVs" of the NFL)... and they're able to find a cable money mark like Disney for whom the value of NFL product for *17* weeks a year is so much that they drop a billion a year on it.
It would be mean to ask what the WWE is making on the Raw and SmackDown and ECW contract.
Perhaps it's more fair to comp the value of the new relegated MNF contract for one year with the revenue for the entire WWE for an entire year.
;)
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Kevin Tyler
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| Frank_Jewett wrote: | | Beth's fashion choices have that certain Rikishi "car wreck" fascination which the director seems to understand because he frequently pans up from her feet. |
It's not her fashion, Frank. It's her freakshow boobs. Which I find more entertaining than Sandman's freakshow matches. I also find Lisa more attractive that Generic Blonde Kelly, but I admit I have less than popular tastes in women. |
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Frank_Jewett Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Beth's "freakshow" boobs are a riot, but she goes the whole nine yards from her gaudy shoes to her heavy makeup and ratted hair. Beth is the total package of fashion "don't."
Dog better not catch you staring at "baby" Lisa. I agree real women (Lisa looks more like a teenage girl) are far more attractive than the plastic WWE Divas and their saline hooters.
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Iron Chad
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Did they ever address at Dog's wedding episode earlier this year that Hulk Hogan showed up for the nuptials because he thought it was DDP getting remarried?
-Chad |
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Frank_Jewett Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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ECW on Sci-Fi drew a 1.7 rating this week, so apparently most of the fans who switched over to watch "Dog: The Bounty Hunter" never came back.
The overall trend is not good. ECW has lost roughly 25% of its audience since school started and since they stopped hotshotting ECW title matches.
The embarrassing hype and dismal failure of strip poker is reminiscent of the embarrassing hype and dismal failure of the XFL's "locker room cam."
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DavidInNYC
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Frank_Jewett wrote: | ECW on Sci-Fi drew a 1.7 rating this week, so apparently most of the fans who switched over to watch "Dog: The Bounty Hunter" never came back.
The overall trend is not good. ECW has lost roughly 25% of its audience since school started and since they stopped hotshotting ECW title matches.
The embarrassing hype and dismal failure of strip poker is reminiscent of the embarrassing hype and dismal failure of the XFL's "locker room cam."
Frank |
Is this something the WWE should be concerned with? I know it's "ECW," but will advertisers know the difference? Video games, horror/action movies, supplements, and candy (and the lower end of the candy spectrum) are basically the only ones that will advertise on his programming. If Vince can't get young men to watch his wrestling programs, is it worth being associated with his programs? |
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