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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was an Achilles so he's out for next year. They did draft Wiseman, and are acquiring Oubre. Although their luxury tax is going to be a nightmare.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Klay injury is tragic.

Per Bobby Marks, the Dubs had:

$17.2M Trade Exception
$5.7M Mid-Level Exception
2021 GSW 1st Round Pick
2022 GSW 1st Round Pick
2021 MIN 1st Round Pick
5 future 2nd Round Picks

The Trade Exception is what Oubre is being traded into. The question is what the Dubs give up. OKC likely wanted to dump the contract as Oubre wasn't part of the long term plans. But they likely also would want something. They were looking yesterday to trade him for a 1st round pick, with Warriors buzz already popping up before Klay's injury. The Dubs didn't bite yesterday, nor did anyone else... but the Dubs circled back today. Haven't seen what is going the other way in any of the reports just yet, but highly unlikely the Dubs would part with the Wolves picks. Perhaps their own 2021 or 2022 with protections.

There has been a ton of talk of Avery Bradley opting out of his Lakers deal specifically to go to the Warriors, where it looks like he had been targeting that Mid-Level to get something another 1+1 like he had with the Lakers, i.e. get a second year of guaranteed money rather than just the one year left. Insurance in case the market stays tight next year, but also the option to opt-out again if things turn up.

Just a guess, but given his defense and 3P shooting, the Dubs want him even more now than a few days ago. Wiggins, Oubre and Weissman against exactly experienced playoff guys or really have ever played on good NBA teams. Bradley has. Not saying he has a monster playoff record, but the last time he was there in 2017, he had a good run overall.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steven Adams is headed to the Pelicans. That should be some front court duo, Zion and Steven Adams.

One of the bigger offseason stories is OKC continuing to amass more and more draft picks. Pretty soon they're going to have enough to have an entire draft's worth of picks.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the more riskier moves is Gordon Hayward leaving Boston to sign a 4 year 120 mil deal with the Hornets. Lot of money indeed. Interesting to see Hayward coexist with (La) Melo.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boogie Cousins's NBA comeback lands him in Houston.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of Houston, they trade Westbrook to the Wizards. For John Wall and a 2023 first rounder.

Gotta give the advantage to the Wiz. I don't know how Harden and Wall will coexist.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a wonderful ugly trade. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NBA and NBPA announce COVID-19 test results

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NEW YORK Ė NBA players returned to a league-wide testing program over the past week, with testing beginning between Nov. 24-30 depending on the day that a player returned to the teamís market.

Of the 546 players tested for COVID-19 during this initial return-to-market testing phase, 48 have returned positive tests.

Anyone who has returned a confirmed positive test during this initial phase of testing in their teamís market is isolated until they are cleared for leaving isolation under the rules established by the NBA and the Players Association in accordance with CDC guidance


8.8% is an uncomfortably high number, especially give some player had been positive prior to 11/24 going back to the Jazz outbreak that shutdown last season. That's working on the theory that we still don't know whether people can get it a second time this close together.

With hoops, all it takes is one positive player to really spread it around a team and screw things up. Camps start in a couple of days. Pre-season not long after that. Regular season sooner than we think. There is no bubble. People need to get really smart about this.

John
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there will be one less super team in the next few years. Unless the Bucks somehow get a few supporting stars for Giannis, because he signed a very lofty extension:


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30526147/giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-reach-five-year-228m-supermax-extension

Good for him. Dodging the bright lights of the super teams.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This felt like it was going to happen when Bron and AD signed their deals. If there was a decent chance he wouldn't sign his max, they would have made more flexible deals.

On the flip side, we've had several players sign big contracts and then force their way out of town via trade demands. PG13 signed the deal with OKC, and then the next year was on his way to LAC. Team Giannis probably knows that if things don't work out in MIL to their liking, they can demand a trade.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very revealing piece on the Rockets under the control of James Harden:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30528130/james-harden-houston-rockets-breaking-point

Lots of bridges burned here. Interesting that this hit piece is published despite Harden still with the Rockets.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A nice redemption story has former top pick Markelle Fultz signs an extension with the Orlando Magic:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2918806-markelle-fultz-magic-agree-to-3-year-50m-contract-extension
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... that's a lot of money for someone who didn't really have all that great of a year.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Warriors seems destined not to have a great year. Granted they played two very good teams, but after Curry, thereís not much of a team. Although Weisman is going to be great. Still Wiggins has been pretty lousy so far.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the much-rumored Harden to the Nets trade finally happened. With the Nets trading perhaps their two brightest future stars in Caris Levert, and Jarrett Allen, and a whole bunch of 1st rounders as well.

This has to be one of the riskiest trades ever. Moreso now because Kyrie Irving has been awol as of late. He seems to have a lot of problems inside and who knows when he will return.

If the new big 3 are able to coexist well, they should be right up there as contenders in the Eastern Conference. They lost a lot of depth though with this trade.
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