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Steve Yohe · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:31 pm Post subject:

For guys to become shooter, they have to spend hours in a gym or backyard shooting..... they have to do it, by themselves for years. And what do they think about? .... taking the last shot in a championship game. It's every player's dream. If there are more that one player, one will count down the seconds, before the practice player shoots. Every person who plays basketball practices that shot to win a NBA World Title. You know how many players get that chance to take the game winning shot in the last game on a NBA Title series? Very few. Green had that shot last night .... and missed. It will probably be the biggest moment in his life .... and he missed. He'll never get that chance again.--- Steve Yohe

jdw · Site Admin Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 17247

Steve Yohe · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:05 pm Post subject:

Green will remember it forever. ---Yohe

corrado · Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 5008 Location: LI

congrats, fellas! you've earned this for sure.

jdw · Site Admin Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 17247

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Steve Yohe · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:07 pm Post subject:

Well .... it's over. --- Yohe

JAG · Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 2298

Utterly satisfying.

From Magic to Kobe to LeBron.

Basketball nirvana.

Jagdip

jdw · Site Admin Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 17247

jdw · Site Admin Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 17247

Bron in the Finals:

30-12-9 on .591/.417/.667 shooting.

He shot .671 from 2P range.

Shaq in his three dominant Finals shot .611, .573 & .595 from the field taking no 3P shots, so that's a 2P%.

It's not just that Bron shot .671 from 2P range. Look at the .417 from 3P range.

I'm not going to say his defense was at 2012-2013 level, simply because he was at his physical prime at that point and he was an extremely smart defender. But his defense in the Finals was really good. There were times that we can find where he made mistakes, or took plays off. But he was consistently quite good.

It was a monster Finals.

And here's how great Bron has been:

This isn't even like his best Finals, or one of his handful of best Finals. He was better in 2012-13. He was insane in 2015 to carry the Cavs to that 4-2 job against a vastly better Warriors team after losing Kyrie and Love. That's even if some of the efficiency numbers don't show it because we have to factor in the workload he was carrying to even make that thing competitive. He was an absolute beast in those final three games in 2016 to bring the Cavs back: 41-16-7-3-3, 41-8-11-4-3 & 27-11-11-2-3. And while the Cavs got crushed in 2017 & 2018 by the Dubs, we can't forget that Lebron quite possibly performed at a higher level than KD in those series *averaging* 34-12-10 & 34-9-10 those two Finals.

He was high end in these 2020 Finals at a level hardly anyone else has reasons across a full Finals. But when you look at Bron's now massive Finals career, it was *at best* par for the course. This is what Bron does in Finals - plays at an insane level.

I hate the GoaT discussion because it ends up being a came of lessening one of Bron or MJ to say one is better than the other. It's like Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle. They were great, great, great all-time top tier players. To say that Willie was better than Mick doesn't mean that Mick wasn't off the freaking charts himself.

That's Bron and MJ. Appreciate both... they are both utterly dominant.

Mount NBA Rushmore: Russ, Jabbar, MJ & Lebron

jdw · Site Admin Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 17247

Zach Lowe postcast with Vogel:

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=30114951